In this episode, I talk with Author and North Point Community Pastor, Clay Scroggins, about his new book, How to Lead When You’re Not in Charge. We have a great conversation about steps you can take to use your influence even when you’re not in charge, how to apply the principles he talks about in a Family Ministry context, and what they look like practically.

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Mastermind Groups

Mastermind groups for ministry leaders are launching this October! A mastermind group is a group of leaders, who serve in a similar context, and come together to: help each other grow, challenge each other, share resources, and offer accountability. The groups are over 2/3 full, so click here for more info and apply now!

Volunteer Playbook Group

The Volunteer Playbook Group is a 10-week challenge to help you recruit more volunteers. You’ll be part of a group of 20+ ministry leaders, and together we'll build our volunteer teams from the ground up. There are only a few spaces left–click here for more info and to register today!

Links Mentioned in This Episode

How to Lead When You're Not in Charge

Key Questions to Ask:

  1. What am I supposed to learn from this? (Instead of “Why is this happening to me?”)
  2. What characteristics and practices does my boss consistently show? What do I want to repeat? What do I want to do differently?
  3. Am I effective where I am now?
  4. How can I learn to lead with influence today so that I can be a better boss tomorrow?

Action Items

  1. Get How to Lead When You're Not in Charge here!
  2. Make a list of your current spheres of influence, and list three steps you can take to grow that influence in the next month

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Next Episode: Cindy Fiala

In the next episode, I interview my friend, Cindy Fiala. Cindy has recently transitioned into the role of Family Minister at LifeBridge Christian Church. She talks about what that journey has looked like for her and shares a great perspective on transition.  Cindy then walks through some really helpful practices for having hard conversations and navigating conflict. Finally, we dig into how Cindy has partnered with parents by creating tribes, or groups, for parents where they can connect with one another.